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Magical One 11/11/2017 El Segundo-ca Age: 30 to 39 what is a deep vamp?
In a Gaynor Minden Pointe Shoe, what is a deep vamp?
The Deep vamp is 1/4�� (0.6 cm) longer than the Low vamp (previously Regular Gaynor Minden vamp). Dancers who wear a Gaynor Minden size 7 or shorter often prefer a Low vamp. Please see Gaynor Minden website for shoe and vamp sizing. - DDS Customer Service (01/31/2018)
Angie 02/23/2017 Rockford-mi Age: 15 to 18 What does code in shoe mean?
I am trying to reorder my daughters pointe shies, the code says 8.5 W 5-521-33. Then under it 252098.
Hello! Thank you for contacting us. The shoes are are with the box number 5, hard shank (5) with the sleek vamp(3) and sleek heel(3). Unfortunately, we do not carry these shoes. - DDS Customer Service (02/24/2017)
I need to order a new pair of pointe shoes but I only have my code that is 8M/4-121-22
What should I order?
It stands for 8 medium, box 4, shank 1, vamp 2, heel 2. On discount dance i think that transfers to 8 M, broad and square box, extraflex shank, reg heel, reg vamp. - Speedybets (01/27/2016)
I know it's a newer type, but I was wondering if there's a way to order the 5 box, or if it will be available soon? I would prefer not to have to order it through the website everytime. Thanks!
Found a pointe shoe you would like to purchase but don't see your size? if you do not see your preferred pointe shoe configuration it means that the item is not one we normally stock. However that doesn't mean we can't get it for you. If you tell us what you are looking for we would be happly to place a custom order for you. Plus, that shoe may be available in the future since this is a new item.
Just give us a call at 800-327-7107 or send us an e-mail at [email protected]. Please note that custom orders can take a couple of weeks or more for delivery and they are non-refundable. Delivery times depends on the manufacturer. Be sure to ask our product specialist about the expected shipping date on your custom order. - DDS Customer Service (10/05/2015)
You should make sure that the 5 box is not too wide - is the #4 box too narrow for your foot? It's wide and square, and the #5 box is even wider. I would call Gaynor Minden NY and discuss this BEFORE ordering. You can order the box on their site or ask DDS if they can get them through GM for you. :) Happy Dancing!! - Sm777 (11/21/2015)
Narrow box (box 2), extra flex shank (yellow bag), high heel
7 is your shoe size the rest deciphered the box, shank, and heel you needed. - Bunheadsforever (09/30/2015)
LUVMYPointes 09/19/2015 Bozeman, Mt, Usa Age: 35 to 44 Code?
I'm not 100% certain that this code is accurate. (There were a lot of numbers inside my shoe). But inside my current pair the code is 4-121-22. Assuming that this is the code, what size, vamp, heel, box, and shank would I need? I really like the current pair I have now, and would like to re order them. Thank you!
Please use the attached photo with proper description for detailed sizing and fitting guide for Gaynor Minden Pointe Shoes. This will have the break down you need to understand the size shoe you need to order. If you have any further questions, please contact our customer service department. - DDS Customer Service (09/23/2015)
Box 4 is broad, 121 is an extra flex shank (yellow bag), and 22 is a high heel - Bunheadsforever (09/30/2015)
10w 4-121-22 was the size we ordered the last time. There is no longer a conversion chart,
What size does this convert to on the new sizing chart?
Thanks
You can use this like to understand the Gaynor Minden Fitting Code
http://onidans.com/admin/uplfiles/gm%20the%20code%20explained.pdf - DDS Customer Service (06/11/2015)
she uses chacott veronese . hard shank. size 24.
been dancing for 10 years.
thanks :)
We strongly urge every dancer is sized for a specific pointe shoe when switching shoes, or purchasing for the first time. We are unable to make recommendations on pointe shoes due to the serious injury that can result from an ill-fitting pointe shoe. - DDS Customer Service (01/05/2015)
She needs to get fitted. Gaynors will be specific to her feet and can't be compared to other shoes for sizing. If you don't have a gaynor fitter in your area go to their website. - Bunheadsforever (09/30/2015)
BalletMouse 09/28/2014 California Age: 18 to 24 Translating the code inside the shoe?
I was fit in GMs by a store that is going out of business soon. They only carry the 3 hardest shanks and wont be special ordering softer ones anymore because they're just trying to get rid of stock. Anyway, the shoe that worked for me was labeled 8M, 4-121-33. It was perfect except that I prefer quite soft shanks and the fitter said that if it's harder than I like, I'd better buy one softer because it will not break down over time. So, how do these numbers translate to the shoe specifications here on discount dance? Obviously size 8, medium width, but what about the 4-121-33? And just how soft is the pianissimo? My ideal shoe can be bent in half so that the heel touches the box, but I've been warned that the pianissimo is so soft it's potentially dangerous. Is there any way I could determine if it's right for me without putting the shoe on in person?
The shoe that you've made reference to is a size 8, medium width shoe with broad and square box, ExtraFlex shank, sleek vamp and sleek heel. The Pianissimo shank is the most flexible shank offered by GM. You have been advised correctly, Gaynor's will not soften or break down over time, however, there are two more shanks between the ExtraFlex that you've worn and the Pianissimo; Supple is a medium shank and Featherflex is a flexible shank. Please call customer service at 1-800-328-7107 for more personalized and detailed assistance. - DDS Customer Service (09/29/2014)
you should definitely try the shoe on to determine if it's too soft for you. however, discount dance will accept a return if the shoe is unused. you could try emailing customer service or contacting gaynor minden directly to help determine your ideal shank strength. as for the size, 8m, 4-121-33 says you would need size 8m, box #4, extraflex shank (this is the next to hardest, but it's what's in the size code you provided), sleek vamp and sleek heel. good luck finding the right combination for your feet! - Evelonies (12/23/2014)
my street shoe size is 8 . What would be my GM size?
We strongly advise you visit a local dance shop to be professionally sized for new pointe shoes. Gaynor Minden recommends women order 1-1.5 sizes larger than their street size. Please note, sizing cannot be guaranteed. - DDS Customer Service (09/09/2014)
your size would be a 9 in Gaynors :) - Kyleighdancer (09/21/2014)
I need a #4 box how do I know which box I need here? In other words, which box/shank comination do I need to match a #4 box hard shank (4-522-22)
Box 4 would be broad & square. Your full combination is Broad & square box/Hard shank/Deep vamp-High heel. - DDS Customer Service (08/11/2014)
If you have a wider foot/ wide metatarsals, which im assuming you do because of the 4 box, then yes get a #4 box. These shoes DO NOT BREAK IN becuase of the material they use. If you want a hard shank becuase it is what you perfer and are confortable with, then order it with the hard shank. If you have never ordered these before, I think the extraflex is a great shoe shank to start with because they still have a lot of support but more give and look great on the foot. - Lmk94 (08/23/2014)
danceforever5678 01/29/2014 Pass Christian, Ms Age: 17 or under shipping?
Why is it that these shoes take 4-6 weeks to arrive even if they are in stock?
I didn't have that problem, but with all the different combination of box, shank, and heel/vamp it would be nearly impossible to stock every shoe in large quantities. Plus, the suede tip and luxe are special order if that's what you ordered, even they Gaynor site adds 2-4 weeks for shipping on some shoes. - Rarasaurous (06/16/2014)
I would guess that it is because there are so many specifications and combinations - Galina (07/21/2014)
Ela 12/17/2013 Tampa, Fl Age: 18 to 24 Someone gave me a gaynor that's 7.5 M /3-121-22/ 117499. I want to buy the same kind what should I g
Someone gave me a 7.5 M/ 3-121-22, 117499 gaynor pointes. It was written on the side of the pointe shoes. Now I want to buy the exact same one. What should I get?
Based on the numeric code for the shoe you have, you would want to get the size 7.5M, Box 3, Shank ExtraFlex, Deep Vamp, and High Heel. Please contact Customer Service if you would like assistance ordering this shoe. - DDS Customer Service (12/18/2013)
You would want to order like this:
Size: 7.5
Width: M (stands for medium in the GM system).
Box: You would get the #3 box (somewhat tapered in the GM system, very tapered to me).
Shank: You would get extraflex shank (comes in a yellow bag).
Vamp: You would get the deep vamp.
Heel: You would get the regular heel.
Hopes this helps - Yulia (02/19/2014)
Bonghi63 09/10/2013 Age: 17 or under Are the Sleek & Deep Vamp the same length? What is the difference between the Sleek & Regular Heel?
The vamp does not alter the length. Regular vamp are for dancers who have shorter toes and less flexibility in the ankle. The sleek vamp would be for dancers who have wide feet around the ball of the foot, and narrow along the sides. - DDS Customer Service (09/12/2013)
Sleek Vamp is very narrow and long, Deep is wider. Sleek Heel is very narrow, and Regular Heel is wider. (I get Sleek Vamp and Sleek Heel because I have skinny feet). I would definitely recommend getting fitted by someone who knows Gaynors! - Fifidancer (11/11/2013)
Hi i wear a 4 1/2 2x in Bloch Axis i really like them and i can get over the box but i also have tendonitis and sometimes it can be really painful to go up and i also have trouble balancing in these pointe shoes as well i would really like to try Gaynor's but none of the local dance stores around me carry them please reply thanks again oh and my street shoe size is a 7.
For a street size 7 I would recommend going up to a 8 or 8.5. As for the box, vamp, and heel I would go by Gaynor Minden's fitting guide listed here > http://www.dancer.com/fitting_gm-comprehensive-guide-to-fitting.php. If you can I would first check with your local dance apparel store to see if you purchase the Gaynor Mindens if they can check the fit for you. They may charge you a fit fee but that is worth it so that you don't risk ankle or foot damage from an improper size. - DDS Customer Service (07/11/2013)
I wear a size 6 street and got fitted into a 7.5 in Gaynors, but I also wear the hello pillows for pointe with my shoes to protect my toes.
The tendinitis may be caused by tying your ribbons on too tight or even your elastics may be too tight as well. Try using the bun heads pro ribbons or the Bloch stretch ribbons. They will feel secure, but will stretch and allow you to roll up without preasure on your achilies tendon.
I would suggest being fitted the first time you try any shoes though, it's a safer bet. Or you can contact Gaynor Minden on their website and they will mail you a fitting kit. Make sure your school is alright with you wearing them to class too. As I know a lot of places don't care for students wearing them unless they are adults or are dancing purely for recreational purposes. I wear Bloch axioms (4 1/2 3x) when I preform with our class, but wear my Gaynors otherwise. - Rarasaurous (06/05/2014)
I believe my current Gaynor Mindens are size 8 M with a regular vamp and high heel but they aren't a
I put in all my sizing details and tried to add to cart, it said the shoe is out of stock. When I checked the inventory, the sizes I want (8 M with a supple shank, slightly tapered box, regular vamp, and high heel) aren't even there! Are they available elsewhere? I did use the sizes of the Gaynor Mindens I have. Thanks!
Though Gaynor does offer that combination, we only carry that combo in a size up to a 7.5. We may be able to order them for you but you would need to contact customer service. You can reach us at: 800-328-7107. - DDS Customer Service (07/09/2013)
I had the same issue- my pointe shoe wasn't available on DDS.
I contacted a worker from Gaynor Minden and they said that you would have to call DDS and tell them what you want, and it'll be a 3 to 4 week backorder. - Dancelikenobodyswatching (07/19/2013)
hi i really want to try these pointe shoes i have never tried these before and none of the dance stores around here carry them i have a really wide foot some what long toes and i have tendonitis help please i really want to try these also 1 more thing my last pointe shoe was grishko triumph size 4 1/2 4x and my street shoe size is a 7 i dont know if that helps i also have trouble getting over my box most of the time in class thanks please help!
As the TRIUMPH is sized 3 sizes down from street shoe I would recommend either a 8.5 or 9 in the GMP. Unfortunately for the GMP's it is recommended to be fitted especially because these shoes are tailored uniquely for your personal vamp and heel. Per Gaynor Minden, most shoe sizes 7.5-12 prefer a deep vamp as it gives more coverage, coming up 1/4 inch higher that the regular vamp. Technically your triumphs have the regular vamp though, which will help you "go over more". They also recommend a high heel for that size shoe as well. But, per your TRIUMPHS, if you decide to go with a regular vamp I would try a regular heel. As for the box, your current shoes are slightly tapered so I would try a #3 box (slightly tapered), to get the same size. Lastly, you did not mention the shank strength but you could also order the same strength as your TRIUMPHs. Again, this is just a recommendation and to wear a pointe shoe without a proper fit will risk potential ankle and foot damage. If you do decide to order a GMP we recommend having it fitted at your local dance apparel studio prior to use just to confirm the sizing. - DDS Customer Service (06/03/2013)
I have the same size street shoe, a really wide foot, and also have troubles getting up on pointe! I have Gaynors and they have seemed to help.
I wear a 7.5 Wide, Box 4. I have a hard shank right now, but I would get an Extraflex. For the vamp, you might want to get a high vamp, but then that might hold you back. I your foot drastically becomes narrow towards the heel, get the sleek fit, if not, go for the high heel because mine are always slipping off.
I really hope this helps, and good luck! - Dancelikenobodyswatching (07/19/2013)
hi i really want to try these pointe shoes i have never tried these before and none of the dance stores around here carry them i have a really wide foot some what long toes and i have tendonitis help please i really want to try these also 1 more thing my last pointe shoe was grishko triumph size 4 1/2 4x dont know if that helps thanks please help
To get any perfect fitting for pointe shoes we do first recommend getting sized in a store. The risk without getting a proper fit is possible foot and ankle damage. We realize that this is not always possible, and are happy to assist you. I would recommend taking the shoes to a store to have them confirm the fit, before wearing your new Gaynors. Compared to the Triumph, I would order approximately 1.5 sizes up from 4.5, since the Gaynor suggested fit is to order down 1-1.5 sizes, instead of the Triumph (which suggest to order 3 sizes down). Also, I would order a wide in the Gaynor, as a 4X in the triumph is equivalent to that width. For the box, I might recommend a #2, slightly tapered, as a Triumph is slightly tapered as well. As for the vamp and the heel, I might recommend going with a #2 vamp (deep), for your longer toes and a #2 (high) heel, to help support the tendonitis. However, your current shoe is a regular vamp and a regular heel, but the change may benefit your foot. Again, we can unfortunately not guarantee any sizing. - DDS Customer Service (05/20/2013)
You need to get fitted for these shoes. I cannot possibly stress the importance of proper fitting for these shoes. Gaynors are extremely unique and require someone who is incredibly knowledgeable about Gaynors. Not being fitted properly could lead to foot issues. - Angelinaballerina8 (08/10/2014)
Cristel Dance 05/15/2013 Ruskin, Fl, Usa Age: 17 or under Gaynor Luxe
I'm interested in buying the new Gaynor Luxe when you have them in Stock.
At this time there are no future plans to carry the Luxe yet. We will always continue to carry the Gaynor originals though stay in touch for future seasons as our inventory always changes! - DDS Customer Service (05/16/2013)
I am pretty sure the Luxe and Suede tips are special order. - Rarasaurous (06/16/2014)
Hi! I wanna know if you recommend GM for me, I haven?t been dancing like for 6 years?
And now I?m returning to ballet, and it has been kind of dificult to reach full point, by now I?m using grishko pointe shoes but I fell them so hard.
Gaynor Minden's are a great shoe for an experienced dancer. However, I would reccomend having a discussion with your teacher to see if at your level she would foresee it being a good idea. If you are interested in the Gaynor Mindens then I would reccommend getting a professional fitting first, as these shoes are wonderful for the unique ways they can size different parts of your feet. - DDS Customer Service (05/06/2013)
I would recommend them to anyone. They promote better alignment and you can use little to no padding with these shoes so you can feel the floor better too. I love mine, but I'm new to being en pointe and for some strange reason have very strong feet that like to mash shanks right at the box. I dance in these with no fear. They fit prefect, support me properly, and I can feel the shoe and my foot working so I can get up and over the box without being flung over for a few weeks until my paste shoes would start to break in.
Make sure that you are also ordering the shank that is supporting you, but is soft enough to work through Demi, and you can push to point in, because they do not get any softer....ever. I like the pink bag with the supple shanks. It feels like a shoe that is broken in. - Rarasaurous (06/16/2014)
My code for my current Gaynors is 10.5W/4-522-22. Can you tell me what I need to order? I know size and width, just not the rest. Thanks for the help!
That would be a Gaynor size 10.5, wide width, a broad and square box (4), a hard shank (5), a deep vamp (2), and a high heel (2). - DDS Customer Service (05/02/2013)
Length: 10.5
Width: W
Box:4
Shank: hard
Vamp: deep
Heel: high
That is the combo broken down. Hope this helps! - Lmk94 (08/23/2014)
The code # on my daughter's gaynor minden is 9N/4-121-22. It also says 9 Nar 4 Box Extra-Flex DV HH.
You would buy style #GMP. You would ask for a size "9.0" in a narrow width. You would order a "1" shank for the extra flex. A "DV" means a deep vamp, so you would order vamp number "2". Also, "HH" means high heel, so you would order a heel number "2" as well. The last thing it shows is a "4" box, or a "broad and square" box. - DDS Customer Service (04/30/2013)
Size 9
Narrow/N
Box 4
Extra flex shank
Deep Vamp with High Heel - Rarasaurous (06/16/2014)
roxy 04/19/2013 Miami, Fl, Usa Age: 35 to 44 MY DAUGHTER SIZE IS 3-121-33 WHAT IT MEANS?
The Gaynor Minded sizing will include things such as the vamp, shank, box, and heel. If you have ordered these from us before please give our customer service number a call and we can pull up the prior sizing. If these did not come from us, please provide the sizing with the letters and we may be able to assist you. You can reach customer service at: 800-328-7107. - DDS Customer Service (04/19/2013)
3-121-33 means box #3, extraflex shank, sleek vamp, and sleek heel. - Evelonies (12/23/2014)
QKISS 04/07/2013 Texas Age: 35 to 44 I NEED REORDER MY POINTS, BUT I DONT REMEMBER HOW I DID IT. MY INVOICE ORDER ITS WRITE GMP4S1V2H208.
You are going to want to order style number "GMP". Under that style number you can choose the exact specification you need in a shoe. Based off of what you have provided it looks like you have a 4 box (broad & square), 1 shank (extraflex), with a 2 vamp (deep), and a 2 heel (high), in a size 8.5 wide. - DDS Customer Service (04/08/2013)
Sarah 03/10/2013 Florida Age: 18 to 24 Proper sizing for Gaynor Minden Pointe Shoes
I currently wear a Grishko 2007 pointe shoe. I have a street shoe size 11, I wear a medium flexibilty shank and a normal width box. What Gaynor Minden shoe would fit me best?
We do not recommend ordering Gaynor point shoes with our company if it is your first purchase for them. They are very specific on there sizing, we suggest going to get fit for this brand before ordering with us. - DDS Customer Service (03/11/2013)
I need black shoes for my daughter for a demi character
They don't offer GM in black, but what you can do to paint the shoes black is go to a craft shore and get those jumbo size black permanent markers and color the shoes - Prettyinpink (02/10/2013)
no, but you can color them. i colored a pair of mine black with sharpies, and it worked really well. just be sure not to color any part that will touch your foot/tights (like the inside of the drawstring casing). also, buy black ribbons instead of trying to color them. - Evelonies (12/23/2014)
Unfortunately, Gaynor Minden does not carry a black shoe. However, it is very easy to sharpie pointe shoes. Dancers more often than not will choose to sharpie a shoe over spray painting. It works well for touch ups as well. You can purchase new black ribbons in whatever size you prefer at any craft or fabric store as well.
If you have any questions, please contact Customer Support for further assistance. - DDS Customer Service (06/01/2015)
Can I have the suede added onto the Gaynor Miden Pointe shoes?
They offer that as an option on the Gaynor Miden pointe Shoes.
Gaynor does offer this option, however we do not offer this option at this time, you may call customer service @1-800-470-1664 to see if they can be special ordered - DDS Customer Service (12/04/2012)
if you want them to come that way, you have to order from gaynor minden or a local retailer. unfortunately, discount dance doesn't have them with suede already on the platforms. - Evelonies (12/23/2014)
What do you think about Gaynor Minden's online fitting? Are they accurate?
Sizing is a suggestion not a guarentee, it all depends on the dancers foot. Suggested fitting is Women order 1-1? sizes larger than street size - DDS Customer Service (11/05/2012)
You should ALWAYS get fitted for shoes at a dance store, if you want them to be right for your feet. GMs are also much more customizable than traditional pointe shoes, hence the need for an in-store fitting. - Ashk (11/13/2012)
Don't buy them please! If you do, buy them in person first. - Littlemissballerina1501 (03/08/2014)
I have bought Gaynor Mindens before but only have the code 8W4-12133. Based on this can you tell me
I understand the 8W but does the rest tell me the box/shank and vamp/heel options to choose?
With the code you have, you would order:
4 Box Broad and Square
1 Extra Flex Shank
3 Sleek Vamp
3 Sleek Heel
4-121-33 - DDS Customer Service (10/29/2012)
Dancer 5280 10/25/2012 Denver, Co, Usa Age: 25 to 34 Do mens sizes correspond to the sizes that are listed?
Suggested sizing for women is what is listed on this item: 1 to 1 1/2 sizes larger than street shoe, so if ordering for men you should go 3 - 3 1/2 sizes up from street shoe as a suggestion only. - DDS Customer Service (10/26/2012)
no. i wear a size 10.5 in gaynor mindens and a size 9 in men's street shoes. - Evelonies (12/23/2014)
I bought Gaynor Miden pointe shoes already but I only have the code how can I get the exact samethin
The code is 9M/3-121-22 (9 MED 3 Box Extra-Flex DV HH) I do have some problem with the choices of box. Do I need Broad & Square or Narrow & Tapered or Slightly Tapered?
The code that you have refers to a 3 Box- Slightly Tapered-1 Shank Extra Flex- 2 Deep Vamp-2-High Heel Size 9 M - DDS Customer Service (10/12/2012)
Slightly tapered - I use box 3 as well. - Ashk (11/12/2012)
It depends on your feet!! If they are narrow and you have tapered toes, the #3 box is best. #2 box is for extremely narrow, tapered feet - it is VERY narrow. Only order #4 if you have wide metatarsal area and toes that are pretty much straight across (square). If you order too wide a shoe, you will sink into the box, lose support and damage your toes. You cannot dance in a box that is too wide. Call Gaynor Minden NY with measurements or send tracings of your feet, with pictures and they can tell you what will work. - Sm777 (11/21/2015)
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